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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Yuriski on Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:53 am

Warrior, that orange ZoC is too big by 247 pixels: your population in that ZoC is not 4million, so it should still be 750 pixels maximum. Also, could you note the populations in your other cities, so that me and Charzy know you have a maximum of 9,000,000 population.

Twinky, Boggerm, I have no idea where your histories have diverged from. Considering that no European nations have yet colonised the Americas, your cultures would traditionally be those of the native people beforehand. As of now, they seem like completely custom nations; could you clarify this before I may accept?

Also Boggerm, you need to write your own history in your application. Your map also seems pasted over the top of Twinky's map. Both of you need to show only your own ZoC and Claims, they will be added to the World Map after acceptance.

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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by twinky827 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:16 am

Yuriski wrote:Warrior, that orange ZoC is too big by 247 pixels: your population in that ZoC is not 4million, so it should still be 750 pixels maximum. Also, could you note the populations in your other cities, so that me and Charzy know you have a maximum of 9,000,000 population.

Twinky, Boggerm, I have no idea where your histories have diverged from. Considering that no European nations have yet colonised the Americas, your cultures would traditionally be those of the native people beforehand. As of now, they seem like completely custom nations; could you clarify this before I may accept?

Also Boggerm, you need to write your own history in your application. Your map also seems pasted over the top of Twinky's map. Both of you need to show only your own ZoC and Claims, they will be added to the World Map after acceptance.

Yes, we're natives. Although advanced natives, that are similar to Europeans it seems.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Yuriski on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:21 am

I guess that's fine then. Once you fix your map so that it shows only your ZoC and claim, I'll accept you.

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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Boggerm on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:29 am

I'm pretty sure my map is good now.
l'll expand nation history soon though.

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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by twinky827 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:33 am

Yuriski wrote:I guess that's fine then. Once you fix your map so that it shows only your ZoC and claim, I'll accept you.

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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Yuriski on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:38 am

Thanks.

Twinky827, Accepted. (In discussion)

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The Agamemnonese Kingdom

Post by twinky827 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:30 pm


Nation Name: The Kingdom of Agamemnonides
National Adjective: Agamemnonides

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Zones of Control and Claims:
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Capital City: Agamemnon City (Sevastopol)
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Economic System: Laissez-Faire Capitalism
Leader Name: King Augustei Agamemnon
Ruling Political Faction: The Agamemnons
History:

Late in the 6th century, the Greeks founded a city in what is now known as the Agamemnonese peninsula (Crimea). The city, unlike our current history, became a major center of trade in the Black Sea, being used to ship goods to nearly all of Eastern Europe. The city, known as Chersoneus, became an immensely powerful city state, controlling almost all politics in the black sea. Growing rich off of the trade that flowed through, the city began to expand, conquered nearby city states in what is called, "The Great Advancement" period. The territory that the Kingdom currently holds today is roughly what was conquered back in the 7th century.

In the 15th century, the nation came under attack by the Slavs, which posed an immediate and astounding threat. Using this to his advantage, Aleksy Agamemnons began his propaganda campaign with incredible success. The people adored him, the ruling party did not.. Within 2 years of his first public speech, Aleksy was able to cause a rebellion that overthrew the royal family in under 7 months. The remaining cities of the Chersoneon Empire soon surrendered afterwards, facing almost certain defeat against Aleksy's peasant hordes..

Aleksy's first action was to rename the capital and the entire nation after him, of course, and secondly to defend against the Slavs. He built a massive fort network across the entire northern border of the country, and won multiple wars with the Slavs, although losing plenty of territory in the process. Eventually, Agamemnon established itself as a minor power within the Black Sea, nothing compared to what is was back in the 8th century, but nevertheless powerful. It's been dodging defeat and managing to stay relatively afloat ever since, but the people have begun to yearn for democracy..

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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Charzy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:38 pm

Accepted
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Hellorp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:07 pm

THE MUGHAL EMPIRE
Flag:
Zones of Control and Claims:

Orange: Delhi
Red: Agra
Yellow: Calcutta
Capital City: Delhi
Government Information:

Head of State: His Royal Highness, Shah Akbar III
Head of Government: Prime Minister Rafi Ibrahim
The Empire is an Absolute Monarchy; the government is appointed at the will of the Shah, who also commands the army. However, the petty feudal lords still retain an unusual degree of autonomy, and regionalism remains a strong force.
Economic System: State Capitalism
Ruling Party: Conservaties
History:

The Mughal Empire crushed the rival Mahratha Empire in a series of successful wars during the last two decades of the 17th century; the Maharathas were destroyed before they could ever become powerful enough to topple their enemies, and the Mughal Empire survives. Unchallenged, the Mughals supressed all other opposition to their rule and retained their military power. United under Imperial rule, the Empire’s people begin to develop a sense of collective identity, and regionalism is replaced by nationalism. In the following century, the economic growth and prosperity of the 1600s continues.

As the Empire’s prosperity rises, it begins to expand its trade with foreign powers. Closer contact with the outside world brings an influx of modern ideas and technology, and the pace of modernization increases throughout the 18th century.

Beginning with the reign of Muhammad Shah in 1719, the monarchy began to actively challenge the power of the landed nobility. With the expansion and modernization of the bureaucracy, the Mughal Empire began to transform from a feudal state into a modern, centralized nation. Most important of all was the establishment of a large, professional army equipped with modern weapons, which allowed the Shah to easily quell any protests the nobles might have to his reforms; however, their opposition was not broken.  

Despite its emergence as a prosperous modern state, internal divisions still grip the Empire. Old feudal loyalties are still strong in many areas, and many are now calling the absolute nature of the regime into question, despite its relative pluralism. There is no semblance of a representative government in the Mughal Empire; the Shah holds absolute power. Whether he will be able to retain that power in the face of an increasingly politically conscious population remains to be seen.

OOC Notes: Well, I’m back…not sure if I’m here to stay or not. I wasn’t going to join, but then I decided that all the arguments of times gone by really weren’t worth the effort. So, I’d like to give this another go, stay out of all OOC politics and let bygones be bygones. If that doesn’t work out, I guess I’ll be outta here again.
I’m not sure about the zones of control, since everyone’s drawn them like provinces, but since I figured they’re an abstract concept I may as well draw them as nice, pleasing geometric shapes. I tried to make them about the same size as everyone else's, but the 'standard' size does vary considerably.


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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by cziken20 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:15 pm

The thing is, zones of controll ARE provinces.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Warriorbulb on Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:16 pm

Yuriski wrote:Warrior, that orange ZoC is too big by 247 pixels: your population in that ZoC is not 4million, so it should still be 750 pixels maximum. Also, could you note the populations in your other cities, so that me and Charzy know you have a maximum of 9,000,000 population.

Twinky, Boggerm, I have no idea where your histories have diverged from. Considering that no European nations have yet colonised the Americas, your cultures would traditionally be those of the native people beforehand. As of now, they seem like completely custom nations; could you clarify this before I may accept?

Also Boggerm, you need to write your own history in your application. Your map also seems pasted over the top of Twinky's map. Both of you need to show only your own ZoC and Claims, they will be added to the World Map after acceptance.
I could have sworn the Charzy said (not to bring him into this) that I could leverage out population through my cities, as long as it was 9mil. I checked and indeed it was 9 million (divided the pixels square for each zone by 250 to get the population in millions as a decimal, added them up and got 9). My history also explains this imbalance.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Hellorp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:26 pm

Zones of control can't be provinces; they represent which cities have access to which resources. Province boundaries can be arbitrary, and are often based on things like population (for the sake of representative government systems, not that any of us would dream of emancipating the serfs) and are therefore not very useful for this purpose.

Anyway, this is up to the mods to decide, and if it's to be discussed then I suggest we don't do it in this thread; it should be reserved for nation posting.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by cziken20 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:29 pm

Ok, maybe this way. Zones of controll are what you actually controll. Claims are jsut claims.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Crichton on Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:29 pm

Hellorp, you really ought to read the rules regarding ZoCs. They aren't arbitrary and do have set sizes.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Charzy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:06 pm

Warriorbulb wrote:I could have sworn the Charzy said (not to bring him into this) that I could leverage out population through my cities, as long as it was 9mil. I checked and indeed it was 9 million (divided the pixels square for each zone by 250 to get the population in millions as a decimal, added them up and got 9). My history also explains this imbalance.

Yeah, this is correct. I ought to have made that clearer to everybody. So long as your three cities have a total population of  9 000 000, you're free to make the distribution whatever you want. Obviously keeping in mind that it's 1 000 000 people to 250 pixels and that 999 999 people is no pixels.

Basically, the two that are under 750 must be under 500 because they have less than 3 000 000 people. Accepted on the condition that you fix that.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Hellorp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:09 pm

Charzy, maybe it would be a good idea to have a 250 pixel square on the world map for reference?
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Charzy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:17 pm

No, no it wouldn't be. People would use that as a guide instead of counting pixels like they should be.
Photoshop, GIMP and paint.net can all count pixels for you.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Charzy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:10 pm

Also, if you could read the "Getting Started" thread (including all the university threads it links to), that'd be nice.
Also, because of your location, I'd like it if you could justify each of the positions of those major cities.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Warriorbulb on Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:38 pm

Charzy wrote:

Yeah, this is correct. I ought to have made that clearer to everybody. So long as your three cities have a total population of  9 000 000, you're free to make the distribution whatever you want. Obviously keeping in mind that it's 1 000 000 people to 250 pixels and that 999 999 people is no pixels.

Basically, the two that are under 750 must be under 500 because they have less than 3 000 000 people. Accepted on the condition that you fix that.
I think I did that, I remember that one of them was around 470 and the other 300 something. I can't check, as my mom has turned off the Wifi in the house.

Would someone mind checking this for me?
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Charzy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:13 pm

Nah, when I checked they were both over 600.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Warriorbulb on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:27 pm

Charzy wrote:Nah, when I checked they were both over 600.
What do you check to see the pixels? I was reading the pixels square. Or are you saying that they were +500 pixels? Again, I've got not wifi.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Charzy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:40 pm

Red has 603 (including the city pixel), yellow has 652, orange has 998.
I'm going to magic wand in the toolbar, then up at the top there's a lightbulb. Click that, change to global. Turn the tolerance down to 25% or so (otherwise it thinks orange, red and yellow are the same colour) and click on a colour. Pixels square is in the bottom right.
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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by MysticPing on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:58 pm

I made some changes to my nation, while i will still set up a nation page, ooc page, projects etc as i made no mayor changes i wont mind if you need to freeze / remove it if the new state cannot be accepted. (Wanted to make these changes earlier, but i was away on a holiday)

Old page - For comparison:
Flag:


The large bird symbolises the Crownlands, while the other two symbolizes the Lowlands and Neuborg

Global Map:



Local Map:



Anthem:



History:

After the french partial invasion of the Holy Roman Empire in 1033 the empire was left weak and allowed many of the states to just do as they wished. This lead several city-states to declare war on Stelz. Stelz won them all and came out as a strong duchy-size nation. The people surrounding the duchy of Stelz grew worried and formed a giant coalition consisting of Neuborg and the Newlands, together they had almost double the power of Stelz. They didn't take long to declare war upon Stelz. Before all hope was lost a brave group of heroes (later believed to be a bunch of hired thugs) assassinated the dukes of Neuborg and Lowlands. They wore lizard masks to protect their identities. In the following confusion Stelz took the opportunity and attacked, securing both duchies. The duke of Stelz now decided to call himself king. He formed the UDG that still exists today. The rivalry between the dukes is long gone and they now live peacefully together as a strong nation. These events took place somewhere near year 1200.

The next 300 years consisted mainly of investing into the realm. Creating economic growth and stability. There was a few border skirmishes with other nations and some minor borders changed. But for the most part UDG existed in peace.

The year 1512 the then king of the UDG decided that there was much fortune to be had in the so called "new world". He sent a couple of small fleets with settlers to try to settle land in south america. The project was initially successful but due to the UDG's lacking navy control over the colonies were bad at best. After a few years the colonies had been lost to conquest or native raids. The king begrudgingly gave up on the project and since then there has been no official records of attempt at other colonies.

The UDG has never been known for its navy, instead it focuses on a strong offensive based land force. Known for pioneering new tactics, units and weapons.

To celebrate the heroes the ceremonial suit used by the royal family and diplomats during important events is black scaled armor. This is a tradition that started originally as appreciation to the heroes that saved Stelz from conquest.

Religion:

Catholic

Government:

The UDG is a constitutional monarchy. The UDG is ruled by a king. The king owns the Crownlands and serves as its duke as well as being king. The UDG's government works like this: The king makes a proposal, the dukes each get one vote (as does the king). If there is a tie the king's heir serves as tiebreaker.

Both the dukes and the kings inheritance are ruled by Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture.

The current dukes/king is as follows:
Lowlands Coat of Arms:
Lowlands: Duchess Maria von Hoenigsberg .Age 32
Heir: Crown Prince Conrad von Hoenigsbeg. Age 14

Neuborg Coat of Arms:
Neuborg: Duke Peter von Bahr. Age 28
Heir: Crown Prince Claus von Bahr. Age 9

Crownlands Coat of Arms:
Crownlands (Duke and king): King Karl von Stelzner. Age 54
Heir: Crown Prince Egan von Stelzner. Age 20

Currently no pretenders

Economy:

The currency used in the UDG is called the Royal Mark. The coins feature a crown as well as a picture resembling the current king"
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New page:

Flag:

Name: United Provinces of Germany

The large bird symbolises the Crownlands, while the other two symbolizes the Lowlands and Neuborg

Global Map:



Local Map:



Anthem:



History:

After the french partial invasion of the Holy Roman Empire in 1033 the empire was left weak and allowed many of the states to just do as they wished. This lead several city-states to declare war on Stelz. Stelz won them all and came out as a strong duchy-size nation. The people surrounding the duchy of Stelz grew worried and formed a giant coalition consisting of Neuborg and the Newlands, together they had almost double the power of Stelz. They didn't take long to declare war upon Stelz. Before all hope was lost a brave group of heroes (later believed to be a bunch of hired thugs) assassinated the dukes of Neuborg and Lowlands. They wore lizard masks to protect their identities. In the following confusion Stelz took the opportunity and attacked, securing both duchies. The duke of Stelz now decided to call himself king. He formed the UPG that still exists today. The rivalry between the dukes is long gone and they now live peacefully together as a strong nation. These events took place somewhere near year 1200.

The next 300 years consisted mainly of investing into the realm. Creating economic growth and stability. There was a few border skirmishes with other nations and some minor borders changed. But for the most part UPG existed in peace.

The year 1512 the then king of the UPG decided that there was much fortune to be had in the so called "new world". He sent a couple of small fleets with settlers to try to settle land in south america. The project was initially successful but due to the UPG's lacking navy control over the colonies were bad at best. After a few years the colonies had been lost to conquest or native raids. The king begrudgingly gave up on the project and since then there has been no official records of attempt at other colonies.

The UPG has never been known for its navy, instead it focuses on a strong offensive based land force. Known for pioneering new tactics, units and weapons.

To celebrate the heroes the ceremonial suit used by the royal family and diplomats during important events is black scaled armor. This is a tradition that started originally as appreciation to the heroes that saved Stelz from conquest.

Religion:

Catholic

Government:

The UPG is a constitutional monarchy. The UPG is ruled by a king. The king owns the Crownlands and serves as its duke as well as being king. The UPG's government works like this: The king makes a proposal, the dukes each get one vote (as does the king). If there is a tie the king's heir serves as tiebreaker.

Both the dukes and the kings inheritance are ruled by Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture.

The current dukes/king is as follows:
Lowlands Coat of Arms:
Lowlands: Duchess Maria von Hoenigsberg .Age 32
Heir: Crown Prince Conrad von Hoenigsbeg. Age 14

Neuborg Coat of Arms:
Neuborg: Duke Peter von Bahr. Age 28
Heir: Crown Prince Claus von Bahr. Age 9

Crownlands Coat of Arms:
Crownlands (Duke and king): King Karl von Stelzner. Age 54
Heir: Crown Prince Egan von Stelzner. Age 20
Full title: Karl von Stelzner, King of Germany, Duke of the Crownlands, Leader of the German Military and the Protector of the German People.

Currently no pretenders

Economy:

The currency used in the UPG is called the Royal Mark. The coins feature a crown as well as a picture resembling the current king.
(1 mark = 1 cu)
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Changes are mainly minor: Name change and added a full title to the king

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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Yuriski on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:18 pm

That's fine mystic. Re-accepted.

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Re: Encyclopaedia Territorium

Post by Hellorp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:49 pm

Charzy, I've read all of the rules, I'm sorry if I didn't internalize them properly. When I have time, I'll make an effort to read over them again.

As for my cities,

Delhi was the final capital of the Mughal Empire from 1648-1857
Pubjab and Deccan were regional capitals that both became independent later. Choosing them was my attempt to fully represent the divided population and spread it relatively evenly throughout the Empire.
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