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Post by cziken20 Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:24 pm

No, some places are still fucked up. Japan and insides of numbers specifically. Numbers aswell.
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Post by Appe96 Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:47 pm

Will fix, will also change flag
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Post by Appe96 Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:05 pm

Everything in my post is now fixed
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Post by Paradox Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:04 am

Updated the World Map again. Removed Persia at Kryten's request; added El Imperio Iberico (The Iberian Empire) and Turkey.

Link: https://i.imgur.com/gYgYors.png
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Post by Hellorp Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:48 am

I have edited my map again. There are now no other nations on it, anti aliasing has been turned off, and I used the pencil tool so that there are no borders around the claim or zones of control. I have also provided a key beneath the map as to the names of the cities, and chosen different cities, as I have decided that my old map represented the regions well but not the actual cities, and that the most important ones should be there first.

I think it would be a good idea to provide a blank map at the top of the thread so that people don't have to take someone else's and paint bucket it all.
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Post by JayDee Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:04 am

why do you have a random claim in corsica?
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Post by Hellorp Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:37 pm

Because Corsica is god-given birthright of glorious Mughal Empire!

I don't. I assume that's an area I forgot to turn green. I'll fix that right now.
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Post by JayDee Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:24 pm

oh ok
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Post by Hellorp Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:35 pm

Can I start roleplaying now? Please? Pretty please?
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Post by MysticPing Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:42 pm

Hellorp wrote:Can I start roleplaying now? Please? Pretty please?

Even though i am super busy now with school starting in another city, i took the time to fix as much of your nation as i could.

List of things that were wrong and that i fixed:
You had somehow managed to change ground and ocean colour. (In fact also alias the whole coasts) This is probably due to saving as .jpeg instead of .png
You still had effects of anti aliasing left. (I recommend installing paint.net where there is a button to toggle AA)
You're ZoC were hovering around 680-780 while they should be exactly 750 each. To see this yourself press the magic wand button, then the light bulb (to set mode to global). Then just click the color you made your city and it should say "x pixesl squared" in the lower left.
You need a single pixel to show where the city itself is
I also don't know how, but you managed to screw the map up somehow by changing the width by a pixel. Meaning i had to redo and copy some of the coast to fix india on the map
You also covered a river with your city claim on the coast
I changed claims to grey beacuse it looks better

This is a link to the fixed map

Now, i can see a few more issues with your application:
It's fine if some parts of the application is a bit short, but it seems like all parts of yours is. It could still get accepted
Now people are accusing you for meta gaming because the way your claim was made. You have three cities. One on the coast and two in land. The two totally disconnected cities look like they are made specifically to be over the two resource nodes in India. Something you are not allowed or meant to do.

For comparison:
Comparison image:

I have no power so i don't speak officially, just trying to help you
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Post by Hellorp Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:54 am

Mystic, thank you for your help. However, my map was saved as a PNG and made in Paint.net with anti-aliasing turned off, so I just don't know what the problem was.

I've been told several times that 750 is the pixel cap, and this is incorrect. To quote a post Charzy made on the third page of this thread:

Charzy wrote:Yeah, this is correct. I ought to have made that clearer to everybody. So long as your three cities have a total population of 9 000 000, you're free to make the distribution whatever you want. Obviously keeping in mind that it's 1 000 000 people to 250 pixels and that 999 999 people is no pixels.

As for the people who are claiming that I am metagaming, I would ask that they actually read my posts and look up my nation (which is a real life nation, if anyone doesn't know). Those two cities are Delhi and Agra, and they were the two most important Mughal cities. And even if I picked these sites randomly, which I did not, the charge of metagaming is ridiculous. The locations of these resources is IC knowledge shared by everyone, and cities are built around resources--that's how cities work. By definition, this could not have been metagaming, even if I did not pick the historical sites of important cities.

As for my application being too short, let me point out that a headmaster of this forum, Jaydee, posted the following application:

Jaydee:

Compared to mine:

me:

I understand that my liberal use of spoilers gives the impression that my application is shorter, while in reality mine is 375 words and his is 178. (And no, that does not include my long OOC section). I'm not sure if Jaydee was accepted, but Boggerm, and 255 words, was.

In conclusion,

I'm not sure how the map could have had problems, but thank you for fixing them. As for the claim that I'm metagaming, I believe I've actually put more thought than most into where the three cities I have been allowed should be placed. My nation application is average length and much longer than some that were accepted without any questions being raised about the issue.
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Post by Hellorp Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:04 am

In hindsight, Mystic, that must have read very ungrateful. I can't understand how the map went wrong, but I trust that it did, and I'm very thankful you took the trouble to fix it.
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Post by Charzy Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:02 am

I'll look over it later today if I remember and when I'm at home. If I forget, you can always remind me.
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Post by Hellorp Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:03 am

Thanks Charzy.
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Post by Appe96 Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:26 am

Could I give a friendly reminder that my app is on page 5 aswell? I dunno if you saw it or not, it is easy to miss in this sea of comments Smile
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Post by JayDee Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:54 am

are you saying i have a bad application ill kill u
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Post by Hellorp Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:03 am

Very Happy
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Post by borisperrons Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:42 pm

Greater Empire of Japan
Dai Nippon Teikoku


The Imperial Symbols:


The Dai Nippon Teikoku Territory:


Some facts regarding the empire's history:


Religion:


Government:


Economic system:


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Post by MysticPing Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:59 pm

How it actually works hellorp is: You get 250 pixels per million people. Exactly 250 pixels. So if you have a city of 3 million you need exactly 750 pixels. If it was 8,999,999 people you would have 500 pixels


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Post by JayDee Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:04 pm

boris am of the accepted this is coup d'etat i am laeder now
jk boris ur app is shit ur not accepted
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Post by Hellorp Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:48 pm

Right, thanks for clarifying that Mystic. So, is there a particular way to get the number of pixels in a Zone of Control exactly right, or does the process just have to be really tedious? And I take it we repeat this process every time we gain a million people?
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Post by MysticPing Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:53 pm

Both i and charzy have told you to use the magic wand tool in paint.net, click the lightbulb and then the colour of your claim. Look in the bottom left at "pixels square"
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Post by Charzy Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:07 pm

Yeah it's easy. MSPaint is for scrubs.
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Post by MysticPing Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:15 pm

Hellorp, i found out i accidentally reverted some of the changes before saving the fixed map. I fixed the fixed map https://i.imgur.com/fPL8nCf.png

Also turns out one of the cities were wrong by 4 pixels on the one i helped appe with, another fixed fixed map https://i.imgur.com/NnflW4p.png

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Post by Appe96 Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:56 pm

Then my app is now ready for review

Thx mystic
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