Declaration of Home Water Protection
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Re: Declaration of Home Water Protection
The ship was passing from one port to another. Because there was no alternate route, it was forced pass through waters that Kyux claimed as their own, caring not for the fact that others might have to use the strait.Crichton wrote:
It was invading national territory. That is very much violent intention. Would you have allowed the Rikutam ships to approach until they fired?
We also don't recall signing any treaty that said the land you claim actually belongs to you. What right do you have to lay claim to recognised international land?
Warriorbulb- Posts : 860
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We have not signed any treaty that say those lands belong to you. Neither have any other nations in current existence. Why would anybody be expected to recognise claims because of a treaty they didn't sign that was made with a nation that doesn't even exist?
Actually look at the declaration. There is a path through the strait.Warriorbulb wrote:
The ship was passing from one port to another. Because there was no alternate route, it was forced pass through waters that Kyux claimed as their own, caring not for the fact that others might have to use the strait.
Crichton- Posts : 468
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Do we have to remind you of the map?
He has passage
He has passage
MysticPing- Posts : 767
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Let me rephrase that. Lands taken from someone else needs their signs to be ratified. However if the land is not owned by anyone, as in this strait, then no one has any rights to make claims. If however the strait would be owned by someone and both that country and kyux would sign a treaty. Then we would recognize it as Kyux waters.
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We're sorry, but your position is ridiculous. The vast majority of nations exist partly or solely on land that was taken or settled without any kind of treaty being signed with anyone. Your position would result in most of them having no territorial integrity, or even legal existence.
Crichton- Posts : 468
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Kyux has the military force to enforce this claim, therefore it is theirs. If you dispute that, your only opportunity is full on conflict, but for what? Some stupid water that you can easily go around?
dogon11- Posts : 466
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Those lands has been settled for hundreds or even thousands of years, and at which point you can consider it yours. However, if I were to settle the southpole or even another planet today and say it is mine, how many would recognise it?
Same goes for waters it hasnt been settled an it is even traveled by most nations today. Who has the right to that water? No one.
Same goes for waters it hasnt been settled an it is even traveled by most nations today. Who has the right to that water? No one.
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It is not the fact that I can go around that should be considered. But the fact that sealanes that are widely used by everyone is being blocked by someone who thinks he has the right to shoot anyone he likes there.
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All nations with any actual contact with others would defend their water as territory, and have done for 'hundreds of years', although this might not have been too visible on your side of the planet. The declaration contained no new information; it simply codified existing claims.Appe96 wrote:Same goes for waters it hasnt been settled an it is even traveled by most nations today. Who has the right to that water? No one.
Crichton- Posts : 468
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Appe96 wrote:It is not the fact that I can go around that should be considered. But the fact that sealanes that are widely used by everyone is being blocked by someone who thinks he has the right to shoot anyone he likes there.
These sealanes are still open to trading vessels, they are only closed to military vessels, in an attempt to prevent a sneak attack on the nation.
dogon11- Posts : 466
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Then Segerline will excuse themself if we find the ways of the new world strange. The customs and ideals are completely different from ours.
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dogon11 wrote:
These sealanes are still open to trading vessels, they are only closed to military vessels, in an attempt to prevent a sneak attack on the nation.
What kind of damage can a lone warship who clearly announced its intentions do in terms of a supposedly 'sneak attack' against a entire navy?
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Appe96 wrote:Those lands has been settled for hundreds or even thousands of years, and at which point you can consider it yours. However, if I were to settle the southpole or even another planet today and say it is mine, how many would recognise it?
Same goes for waters it hasnt been settled an it is even traveled by most nations today. Who has the right to that water? No one.
A planet, or southpole is way further than any waters near to coast.
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What kind of damage can a lone warship who clearly announced its intentions do in terms of a supposedly 'sneak attack' against a entire navy?
A ship that surprises a navy that isnt collected in one place can do damage. Sinking few ships while having only one sinked is useful at war. The enemy can also attack from the back when most of navy is concentarted in one point.
cziken20- Posts : 563
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He specifically asked to be escorted. They would know if he tried to do a backstab. His intentions was obvious.
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We warned him 3 times before giving him a chance to be escorted OUT, he wanted to be escorted to his destination. We could of killed him after the first warning
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