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Post by borisperrons on Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:45 am

"On the Portera-CICS dispute, I and the rest of the Council are advising that a referendum shall be held among the People of the area, whatever could be the Ciiropogan politics towards them. Is not the governor that has to decide if the governed are oppressed or not, but the governed themselves.
"If they are treated as you claim they are, and if their feelings are what you call them to be, then you have nothing to fear.
"On the contrary, if they want something else different from their actual situation, then it's in their rights to obtain it, and opposing that choice is s criminal violation of their Freedoms."
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by Mobius on Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:56 pm

"We would also like to add that they called the People's government illegitimate and invaded soon after."
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Post by borisperrons on Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:39 pm

"A good point. Concerning this, I'd like to bring some facts at your evidence supporting our claim that the previous Aquitan government was a costant danger to the peace.

"Last year, just after the Iyartaen tyrants fell under the popular pressure and they were replaced by a People's Government, the Aquitan Senate released a quite deprecable statement, and I quote:

Yuriski wrote:The Aquitian Empire does not view this new government as the legitimate government of Iyartae. Step down or face action.

What should this mean? That the Aquitan Empire is entitled the right to decide on the legitimacy of foreign governments? That after an election, the democratically elected leaders should go on a pilgrimage to the Aquitan Emperor seat, and receive his blessing to start their mandate? No civilized nation should defend this line, and even better should be denounced as the barbary it is.

"Then, I want to point out an interesting fact that came to light recently while discussing about the circumstances surrounding the armistice signing:

Yuriski wrote:The senate held a vote, likewise with many other topics. The vote passed with 57%.

borisperrons wrote:Tell me, your government also held a vote to carry on the invasion of Iyartae?

Yuriski wrote:No, since there was too small a time gap in order for a vote to have taken effect.

"What are those sentences telling us? They are telling us that we are speaking about a dangerous government, a government that is ready to unanimously accept the decision of some obscure general to launch an unprovoked surprise attack on a nation with a Popularly elected government, but that, when the forces of Internationalist Friendship are moving to the rescue of the aggressed People, they find the time to discuss and divide themselves on the matter of recognizing their error and ending the onslaught of their own citizens.

"Is this the kind of government you want in charge of an offensive army? Is this the kind of nation you'd want as neighbors? And on top of it, is that the kind of people you want to commit yourself to defend? I think not."
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by Charzy on Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:44 pm

"They made clear their demands and gave Iyartae ample time to defend itself. Had your socialist alliance not interfered with the war, it would have been resolved honourably. Had Iyartae been conquered, it would belong to the Imperium Aquitae by right of strength.

They have shown infinitely more honour than the cowardly nations of the WPRP who would dare invade a land and only afterwards declare their intentions! Had the WPRP waited for the Imperium Aquitae's war to finish and then invaded, then it would rightfully hold control over the land. However, this is not the case. You abused their situation, crippled their ability to fight you and then took control through deceit alone.

Remove yourselves from their lands and free their people! You have no right nor claim to them, for your actions have destroyed the right of strength that once you may have had!"
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by MysticPing on Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:04 pm

"If we did not intervene, others would. And do you value honor over the well being of the people? The very being that makes your nation possible`?

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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by borisperrons on Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:22 pm

"This is nonsense! We are not defending our honour, we are defending our People! I'll personally dress as a female for the rest of my life, if this would preserve the liberty of even only one Citizen!

"The simple fact that you, speaking for your nation, called for leaving another nation to suffer and for its People to die just to save your... honour, is unacceptable! You really have no grasp on how to protect the ones you swore to protect... if you did it, that we are beginning to doubt.

"Anyway, Mr. Chairman, I call for an immediate vote on the prposal I advanced about the international observer corp."
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by Charzy on Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:09 pm

"Pah! A man who refuses to fight to defend his country and his people is no man."
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by DeltaV on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:17 pm

Hellorp wrote:"As for your granting these exiles asylum, are you sure you wish to harbor kerbs who declared an unjust war of aggression with the intention of annexing their neighbour, almost immediately went back on their sworn word to end that war, and had every member of their senate who opposed them--they constituted a majority, by the way--murdered for being an enemy of the state?"

"I am not sure that you entirely understand what political asylum is. We are simply stating that we will allow citizens of the Imperium to apply for political asylum should they believe that their liberty is threatened by the WPRP. I somehow find it difficult to imagine that every Aquitan government official who could have a valid reason to seek asylum has personally murdered their political opponents."

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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by Hellorp on Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:38 am

The former Aquitan government officials currently on the run from justice comprise all of those who conspired to murder their opponents in the senate in order to nullify the treaty. The others, are, well, dead. And, may I remind you, honorable delegate from Aeruza, we did not exploit anyone's situation, we merely honored our sworn alliance to defend Iyarte, and, contrary to what you seem to be trying to make everyone believe, we never actually invaded--merely delivered them an ultimatum, which they signed.
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by Charzy on Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:44 pm

Hellorp wrote:The former Aquitan government officials currently on the run from justice comprise all of those who conspired to murder their opponents in the senate in order to nullify the treaty. The others, are, well, dead. And, may I remind you, honorable delegate from Aeruza, we did not exploit anyone's situation, we merely honored our sworn alliance to defend Iyarte, and, contrary to what you seem to be trying to make everyone believe, we never actually invaded--merely delivered them an ultimatum, which they signed.

"The very idea of a defensive alliance is a coward's one. A fight should be fought alone, or not at all."
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by Hellorp on Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:59 am

"Then I see no reason, really, why you should be here. If you do not support international peace or international unity then you have no right to be part of this organisation."
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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by Yuriski on Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:50 am

"He is correct however. The Iyartaen party was not elected by the people. It was the result of a rebellion - we wished to remove this rebellion and incorporate Iyartae into the Empire so that all of their political voices could be heard and could take effect."

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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by MysticPing on Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:46 am

"And then you murder them for not agreeing with you?"

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Re: United Nations of Kerbin Official Meeting

Post by borisperrons on Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:46 am

"You're right, the Iyartaen government is the fruit of a rebellion BY THE PEOPLE. You wished to give voice to the People by overriding the will of the People? My word, a psychiatrist will surely earn his money by treating you."
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